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I agree with Theresa.  I don't see a good reason to change this.  It doesn't really make a difference.


Lance Marrou, Leidos, [log in to unmask]
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From: SAC-SWG-ENUM <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Reynolds, Theresa CTR
Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2019 10:39 AM
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Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: CR to add E-2D and MH-60S

I think we need to take a few steps back. Currently the CR has been changed to Rev A to move MH-60S to category 21/Utility.

1. I disagree with changing the enumeration. It is not miscategorized. It could go in either category. It is a specialized Utility helo, enhanced with more advance technologies for use in specialized missions.
Special Operations seems more appropriate to me than Utility. There are other helos in cat 25 that could be moved to Utility as well. Do we reevaluate the rest of them too?

2. I also disagree with creating a new category for similar reasons. Nothing to be gained and just makes more work for those of us that frequently play the MH-60S.

3. I propose we go back to what Lance originally suggested and just submit an update to the name. MH 60S Knight Hawk---> MH-60S Knighthawk (https://www.naval-technology.com/projects/mh_60s/)

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-Theresa



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From: SAC-SWG-ENUM [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Orlando Laboy
Sent: Friday, November 1, 2019 7:44 AM
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Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: CR to add E-2D and MH-60S

I agree with Lance's suggested name change. However, neither CAT 22 (Anti-Submarine Warfare/Patrol Helicopter) nor CAT 25 (Special Operations Helicopter) are appropriate. The MH-60S is a multi-role helicopter but I think it will be better described with a new CAT of Surface Warfare (SUW). Based on this I suggest changing the CR to add CAT 10 Surface Warfare (SUW) and change the name and the category.

By the way, I noticed duplicate air domain categories:

5 ASW/Patrol/Observation
22 Anti-Submarine Warfare/Patrol Helicopter



Orlando J. Laboy
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From: SAC-SWG-ENUM <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Marrou, Lance R.
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 5:17 PM
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Subject: [SUSPICIOUS] Re: EXTERNAL: CR to add E-2D and MH-60S

Perhaps the CR could be updated to instead update the name. The existing entry was added prior to us tracking them in CRs. The entry is

MH 60S Knight Hawk

And, you might actually want

MH-60S Knighthawk

I searched on MH-60s and of course found nothing because there's a space, not a hyphen. The more important point is that the MH-60S is under CAT 25 for special operations. The CR proposed CAT 22 for Anti-Submarine Warfare/patrol helicopter. My opinion is to not change it once assigned unless there's a really good reason.

Lance Marrou, Leidos, [log in to unmask]
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-----Original Message-----
From: SAC-SWG-ENUM <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Mike Penkrot
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2019 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: CR to add E-2D and MH-60S

The MH-60S Knighthawk already exists as 1.2.225.25.1.6.0.

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Mike Penkrot
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