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Re: Draft BPDSP for SAC Review James Kogler <a href="/index.htm?LOGON=A3%3Dind0604%26L%3DSISO-SAC%26E%3Dquoted-printable%26P%3D7036655%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252Fhtml%3B%2520charset%3DUTF-8%26XSS%3D3%26header%3D1" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a> <a href="/index.htm?LOGON=A3%3Dind0604%26L%3DSISO-SAC%26E%3Dquoted-printable%26P%3D7036655%26B%3D--%26T%3Dtext%252Fhtml%3B%2520charset%3DUTF-8%26XSS%3D3%26header%3D1" target="_parent" >[log in to unmask]</a> Yep, #2 looks good.

Jim

SISO-SAC: Katherine Morse wrote:
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> I vote for the first. The second is way too open to individual
> interpretation.
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> Katherine L. Morse, Ph.D.
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> From: "James McCall" ([log in to unmask])
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> Relative to the use of Robert's Rules of Order:
>
> In fact, the only discussion of an informal style of meeting in RONR is
> related to small board (less than 12 members). In the introductory
> discussions, RONR recognizes three levels of meetings:
>
> Less than 6: Sit around the table and try to come to a consensus.
>
> Between 6 and 12: Need at least a Chair and Secretary, Need to control who
> is speaking, Need to use precise language in defining proposals and
> approving them.
>
> Over 12 members: Full Scale Parlementary Procedures
>
> The Informal Procedure in Small Boards may actually go too far for most of
> the PDG/PSG requirements:
>
>
> * Members do not have to stand or be recognized by the chair in order
> to speak or make motions.
>
> * Motions need not be seconded
>
> * Members may speak any number of times on a question (not just two)
> and motions to close or limit debate are generally not permitted.
>
> * Motion does not have to be pending in order to discuss a subject
> informally
>
> * Votes can be taken initially by a show of hands
>
> * If a proposal is perfectly clear to everyone, it may be voted on
> even though no formal motion has been made.
>
> * In putting questions to a vote, the chairman need not stand.
>
> * The chariman can participate in debate just as any other board
> member and, subject to the custome in the particular board, can also make
> motions and vote
>
>
>
> Therefore, the particular sentence is wrong and needs revision. I propose
> the following:
>
> A meeting Chair shall conduct meetings in accordance with Robert's
> Rules of
> Order Newly Revised (10th Edition). The Chair may entertain a motion to
> suspend specific rules (e.g. standing, recognition, debate limits) to
> allow
> for a more collegial process, however, at any time in the meeting, the
> Chair
> may invoke parliamentary procedures in order to control the meeting.
>
>
>
> Alternatively, drop all references to RONR:
>
> A meeting Chair shall conduct meetings in a professional manner.
>
>
>
> Mark
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